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Author: Stephen Davis

Updates: (...)

Title: The Counterattack of the Resurrection Skeptics: A Review Article
Location: http://www.epsociety.org/store/backissues.asp?issue=15&mode=detail
Type: Review essay
Target: The Empty Tomb: Jesus Beyond The Grave, chapters 5, 9, and 10
Merit: Important




Author: Earl Doherty (atheist, "The Jesus Puzzle")

Updates: (http://www.jesuspuzzle.humanists.net/specialfeatures.html)

Title: A Comment on Richard Carrier's "Review of The Jesus Puzzle: Did Christianity Begin With a Mythical Christ?"
Location: http://www.jesuspuzzle.humanists.net/CarrierComment.htm
Type: Web article
Target: Did Jesus Exist? Earl Doherty and the Argument to Ahistoricity (2002)
Merit: So-so

  • Argument/Response: Doherty mainly agrees with the "thrust" of Carrier's critique though he challenges Carrier to provide a concrete reason for not granting more weight to the case (using Carrier's own sentiments). On the one hand Doherty wants to make a "morally certain" conclusion, yet blows off Carrier's appeal to "if this were a trial, the Christians who supposedly fabricated Jesus would get off with reasonable doubt." Doherty has changed gears in the ambiguity of language even though it seems the equivalencies are too distinct to get away with it. Doherty's analogy on the impracticality of "waiting on the evidence for unicorns" is a bad example because with NT studies it seems we have good specific reasons to think that further evidence that we know we don't have might well radically change our conclusions. With unicorns it seems we really have no idea at all. The natural problems of history do not grant us the right to demand "moral certainty" grading on the curve just because no one's life happens to be hanging in the balance. What we know is what we know. Obviously Carrier's opinion on mythicism has shifted since writing the article that Doherty has commented on, but presumably Carrier has followed all of his own advice and made a much more weightier case. That remains to be seen.



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Author: (youtuber: "edzotube")

Updates: (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=edzotube&view=videos)

Title: Re: Unintelligent Design
Location: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN5EXrrE6Aw
Type: Vlog
Target: The God Who Wasn't There
Merit: So-so

  • Argument: Neuroscience doesn't actually know what all the brain does and therefore we can only say that the brain is as big as it is, but not that it has to be that big. Edzotube says that we don't know the brain has to be as large as it is (killing many a mom) since there is uncertainty. He wants to see evidence backing up the 1 in 5 mother deaths and claims this is emotional appeal. The brain (contra Carrier's "energy hog" claim) is entitled to more resources in proportion to the services rendered and so it seems like good design to see how organized and devoted the body is to fulfilling the brain's needs. Edzotube asks (challenges) what subsystem in the body is getting hindered by the brain hogging resources. Even though the brain can get damaged the good design is in a skull that is soft coming out who is then guarded by a conscious mother who can protect the child till the skull hardens when the child is more mobile. He calls this amazingly good design and challenges Carrier to come up with a better example. Edzotube says Carrier's argument to naturalism is a jumble and that the fact we have brains doesn't prove God doesn't exist. He says Carrier (like Dawkins) needs to stay in his area of expertise. He claims Carrier glibbly summarizes Christianity and doesn't understand it. Edzotube claims faith in science and the Christian god are not mutually exclusive and "must" be integrated.
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Author: Bart Ehrman (agnostic)

Updates: (RSS)

Title: Acharya S, Richard Carrier, and a Cocky Peter (Or: “A Cock and Bull Story”)
Location: http://ehrmanblog.org/acharya-s-richard-carrier-and-a-cocky-peter-or-a-cock-and-bull-story/
Type: Blog
Target: Ehrman on Jesus: A Failure of Facts and Logic
Merit: So-so


Title: Response to Carrier
Location: http://ehrmanblog.org/response-to-carrier/
Type: Blog
Target:
Merit: So-so


Title: Fuller Reply to Richard Carrier
Location: http://ehrmanblog.org/fuller-reply-to-richard-carrier/
Type: Blog
Target: Ehrman on Jesus: A Failure of Facts and Logic
Merit: Important




Author: Cameron English ("The Passive Habit")

Updates: (http://thepassivehabit.blogspot.com/search?q=carrier, RSS)

Title: Carrier vs. Holding: the opening statements
Location: http://thepassivehabit.blogspot.com/2011/04/carrier-vs-holding-opening-statements.html
Type: Blog
Target: Holding vs. Carrier debate
Merit: So-so

  • Argument: Cameron: "...the important question is one of significance. And despite illustrating that changes were made, I think this is where Carrier failed to make his case that we can't know what was originally written."
  • Response: Textual Reliability of the New Testament?

Title: Carrier vs. Holding: rebuttals
Location: http://thepassivehabit.blogspot.com/2011/04/carrier-vs-holding-rebuttals.html
Type: Blog
Target: Holding vs. Carrier debate
Merit: So-so

  • Argument: 1. Carrier's examples of scholarly disputes over various Bible passages have no impact on overall Christian theology. 2. Cameron: "...the only thing that the ongoing debate proves is that there is an ongoing debate and one side of it is wrong, not that Carrier's opponents are incapable of being correct."
  • Response: 1. Often times it seems that Christians assume that as long as another part of the Bible clarifies an issue, that means there's no issue. But this ignores chronological issues and the possibility of later Bible authors "correcting" earlier versions of belief (for example, the short ending of Mark in light of Markan priority could imply legendary embellishment and polemical changes on the part of the other gospel authors, though there are many uncertainties there). 2. The context Carrier is speaking in seems to be that of secular scholarship vs. secular scholarship and he isn't taking sides there even if conservative scholarship has its own answers on the same issue, which is just a different debate.

Title: Carrier vs. Holding: Q&A
Location: http://thepassivehabit.blogspot.com/2011/04/carrier-vs-holding-q.html
Type: Blog
Target: Holding vs. Carrier debate
Merit: So-so

Title: Carrier vs Holding: who won?
Location: http://thepassivehabit.blogspot.com/2011/05/carrier-vs-holding-who-won.html
Type: Blog
Target: Debating J. P. Holding
Merit: So-so

Title: Review: The Impossible Faith
Location: http://thepassivehabit.blogspot.com/2011/06/review-impossible-faith.html
Type: Blog
Target: Not the Impossible Faith
Merit: Lame

  • Content: Cameron briefly summarizes what he thought of J. P. Holding's book and an argument from the online version of it and then takes a brief swipe at some of the skeptical criticism aimed at the book.
  • Argument: Cameron: "I don't think the rebuttals count for much, since they amount to 'well, other ancient religions had a tough time too!'"
  • Response: That's such a vague dismissive caricature that one would be better off taking Cameron's advice and reading Carrier's book yourself.

Title: John Loftus underlings attack NT textual reliability
Location: http://thepassivehabit.blogspot.com/2011/07/john-loftus-underlings-attack-nt.html
Type: Blog
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Title: John Loftus underlings on New Testament reliability, Pt. 2
Location: http://thepassivehabit.blogspot.com/2011/07/john-loftus-underlings-on-new-testament.html
Type: Blog
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Title: Predictions: Jacoby vs. Carrier on the historical Jesus
Location: http://thepassivehabit.blogspot.com/2012/01/predictions-jacoby-vs-carrier-on.html
Type: Blog
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  • Question: Why not consider [arguing the Christ myth position] during a debate with another scholar?
  • Answer: A proper mythist position is too complicated to establish in the time allotted to do it proper justice.

Title: Debate review: Jacoby vs. Carrier
Location: http://thepassivehabit.blogspot.com/2012/01/debate-review-jacoby-vs-carrier.html
Type: Blog
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Title: Christ-myth fail: More thoughts on David Fitzgerald's Nailed
Location: http://thepassivehabit.blogspot.com/2012/01/christ-myth-fail-more-thoughts-on-david.html
Type: Blog
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Author: Jason Engwer ("Triablogue")

Updates: (http://triablogue.blogspot.com/search?q=richard+carrier, RSS)

Title: Some Neglected Evidence Relevant To The Census Of Luke 2 (Part 1)
Location: http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2007/12/some-neglected-evidence-relevant-to.html
Type: Blog
Merit: ...
Target: The Date of the Nativity in Luke

  • Content: Engwer is setting up an introduction to his six part series and no actual arguments are presented: "Much of what Brown and Carrier have written in their works cited above is helpful. [...] But when critics like Brown and Carrier use phrases like "dubious on almost every score", "beyond reasonable dispute", and "plain and irrefutable" when discussing their conclusions about the census, they're going beyond what their own evidence warrants. And there's some other evidence that they and other critics don't address much, if at all."

Title: Some Neglected Evidence Relevant To The Census Of Luke 2 (Part 2)
Location: http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2007/12/some-neglected-evidence-relevant-to_11.html
Type: Blog
Merit: Important
Target: The Date of the Nativity in Luke

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Title: Some Neglected Evidence Relevant To The Census Of Luke 2 (Part 3)
Location: http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2007/12/some-neglected-evidence-relevant-to_12.html
Type: Blog
Merit: Important
Target: The Date of the Nativity in Luke

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Title: Some Neglected Evidence Relevant To The Census Of Luke 2 (Part 4)
Location: http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2007/12/some-neglected-evidence-relevant-to_13.html
Type: Blog
Merit: Important
Target: The Date of the Nativity in Luke

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Title: Some Neglected Evidence Relevant To The Census Of Luke 2 (Part 5)
Location: http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2007/12/some-neglected-evidence-relevant-to_14.html
Type: Blog
Merit: Important
Target: The Date of the Nativity in Luke

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Title: Distortions Of Matthew 27:52-53
Location: http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2008/03/distortions-of-matthew-2752-53.html
Type: Blog
Merit: So-so
Target: Infidelguy interview part 1, part 2, part 3, and part 4


Title: Romans 8:11 And Physical Resurrection
Location: http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2008/07/romans-811-and-physical-resurrection.html
Type: Blog
Merit: So-so
Target: The Empty Tomb: Jesus Beyond The Grave, chapter 5


Title: A Bad Argument Against The Resurrection That's Often Repeated
Location: http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2009/01/bad-argument-against-resurrection-thats.html
Type: Blog
Merit: So-so
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Title: Why Didn't The Risen Christ Appear To More People?
Location: http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2009/03/why-didnt-risen-christ-appear-to-more.html
Type: Blog
Merit: So-so
Target: Craig Debate Wrap

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Title: A Review Of The Carrier/Craig Debate On The Resurrection
Location: http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2009/03/review-of-carriercraig-debate-on.html
Type: Blog
Merit: Important
Target: Craig Debate Wrap

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Title: The Significance Of The Resurrection Evidence
Location: http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2009/04/significance-of-resurrection-evidence.html
Type: Blog
Merit: Important
Target: Craig Debate Wrap

  • Argument: The evidence of the appearance events can't be measured merely by asking how many people the risen Christ appeared to or whether those people were prominent in the extant writings of their contemporaries, for example. The issue is more complex than that.
  • Content: Engwer discusses the roman guards, the conversion of James the brother of Jesus, and Saul's conversion to Paul.
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  • Response: History is simply not very well equipped to deal with justifying miracle claims. Especially when dealing with texts that are explicitly and overtly propaganda, polemical, and filled with claims that in any other context would immediately be recognized as mythical. Since converts often exaggerate their prior skepticism and since there is a didactic function to so called "embarrassing" rejections (in other words, lack of faith will be the ongoing issue and having characters we can sympathize with is an immediate advantage despite how critics for millenia may use it), there is no use appealing to the literary details in the gospels to justify a character's predisposition. Perhaps James did reject his brother during his life, but if the body went missing accidentally, the tomb was found empty, and word got out that Jesus' disciples were having visions of his resurrected brother, the suggestion would be planted and James may very well have had a grief and guilt induced (for having doubted his claims) hallucination/appearance that converted him. The main theme of Carrier's objection is good communication in matters of critical importance with ALL of humanity and trying to eek out little details from the socio/political drama the gospels present to outweigh the smorgasbord of religious confusion across the broad spanse of human history simply does not compare in any meaningful way. Complicated yes, but convoluted, subjective, and plausibly dubious as well for many reasons that shouldn't be ignored.

Title: The Infidel Delusion, chapter 11 (PDF pages 171-178)
Location: http://www.calvindude.com/ebooks/InfidelDelusion.pdf
Type: Online book
Merit: Important
Target: The Christian Delusion: Why Faith Fails, chapter 11

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Title: The Infidel Delusion, chapter 15 (PDF page 205)
Location: http://www.calvindude.com/ebooks/InfidelDelusion.pdf
Type: Online book
Merit: Lame
Target: The Christian Delusion: Why Faith Fails, chapter 15


Title: The Infidel Delusion, Appendix VII: Hallucinations, Hostile Witnesses, and the Resurrection (PDF pages 244-251)
Location: http://www.calvindude.com/ebooks/InfidelDelusion.pdf
Type: Online book
Merit: Important
Target: The Christian Delusion: Why Faith Fails, chapter 15, and the second debate with Mike Licona

Title: The Infidel Delusion, Appendix VIII: The Significance of Suffering: Did the Resurrection Witnesses Lie to Achieve A Greater Good? (PDF pages 252-254)
Location: http://www.calvindude.com/ebooks/InfidelDelusion.pdf
Type: Online book
Merit: Important
Target: The Christian Delusion: Why Faith Fails, chapter 15, and the second debate with Mike Licona

Title: The Infidel Delusion, Appendxi X: What Richard Carrier Claimed About The Christian Delusion When It Came Out (PDF pages 256-257)
Location: http://www.calvindude.com/ebooks/InfidelDelusion.pdf
Type: Online book
Merit: Lame
Target: The Christian Delusion: Why Faith Fails, and Carrier's blog post, The Christian Delusion

  • Argument: Engwer reproduces Carrier's blog post advertising TCD at the very end of TID presumably to show that its claims were not vindicated.
  • Response: I think Carrier oversells TCD, but that doesn't make TID a successful refutation.

Title: Double Standards at Debunking Christianity
Location: http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2010/07/double-standards-at-debunking.html
Type: Blog
Merit: So-so
Target: The Christian Delusion

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Title: Majority Appeal: Dismissing Evangelicals Because Of Their Minority Status
Location: http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2010/08/majority-appeal-dismissing-evangelicals.html
Type: Blog
Merit: So-so
Target: The Christian Delusion

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Title: Skeptical Difficulties
Location: http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2010/08/skeptical-difficulties.html
Type: Blog
Merit: So-so
Target: The Christian Delusion

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Title: Paul Tobin Vs. Richard Carrier On Luke's Census
Location: http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2010/08/paul-tobin-vs-richard-carrier-on-lukes.html
Type: Blog
Merit: So-so
Target: The Christian Delusion: Why Faith Fails

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Title: The End of Infidelity, Chapter 2 (PDF pages 31-42)
Location: http://www.calvindude.com/ebooks/The_End_of_Infidelity.pdf
Type: Ebook
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Title: The End of Infidelity, Appendix 10: An Illustration of Early Christian Access to Evidence (PDF pages 279-284)
Location: http://www.calvindude.com/ebooks/The_End_of_Infidelity.pdf
Type: Ebook
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Author: ("Escaping Mediocrity")

Updates: (http://escapingmediocrity.wordpress.com/?s=richard+carrier, RSS)

Title: The Death of Beauty
Location: http://escapingmediocrity.wordpress.com/2010/10/13/the-death-of-beauty/
Type: Blog
Merit: Lame
Target: Sense and Goodness Without God




Author: Randy Everist ("Possible Worlds")

Updates: (http://www.randyeverist.com/search?q=richard+carrier, RSS)

Title: Response to Richard Carrier
Location: http://www.randyeverist.com/2011/06/response-to-richard-carrier.html
Type: Blog
Merit: So-so
Target: Pauline Interpolations

Title: Response to Richard Carrier, Part 2
Location: http://www.randyeverist.com/2011/06/response-to-richard-carrier-part-2.html
Type: Blog
Merit: So-so
Target: Pauline Interpolations



Author: Ukpong Eyo

Updates: (http://macairyo.blogspot.com/search?q=richard+carrier, RSS)

Title: In Response to Dr. Richard Carrier
Location: http://macairyo.blogspot.com/2010/02/in-response-to-dr-richard-carrier.html
Type: Blog
Merit: So-so
Target: Where the Hell Is Jesus!? Weird Stuff from the Gospels to the Apostles.



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Author: Demian Farnworth ("Fallen and Flawed")

Updates: (http://www.fallenandflawed.com/?s=richard+carrier&submit=GO, RSS)

Title: Jesus’ Resurrection: Was It Spiritual or Physical?
Location: http://www.fallenandflawed.com/spiritual-or-physical-resurrection/
Type: Blog
Merit: Lame
Target: General Case for Spiritual Resurrection, The Empty Tomb: Jesus Beyond The Grave, chapter 5

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  • Argument: Carrier's spiritual body hypothesis is wrong because William Lane Craig says Paul believes in a physical resurrection body.
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  • Response: Carrier does not argue for an immaterial body at all: "This does not mean that Jesus was resurrected as a bodiless soul (there is no evidence Paul even believed in such a thing), but that he was resurrected by being given a new body, one not made of flesh or physical matter as we know it, but of some kind of ethereal, spiritual material. Thus, the distinction is not between bodily and nonbodily resurrection, but between a resurrection of a corpse vs. resurrection of a person into a superior body, leaving the corpse behind like a spent shell (or, as Origen called it, the corpse is like the discarded placenta)."



Author: ("The Fifth Column")

Updates: (http://skellmeyer.blogspot.com/search?q=richard+carrier, RSS)

Title: The Atheist's Lament
Location: http://skellmeyer.blogspot.com/2010/09/lament-atheists.html
Type: Blog
Merit: So-so
Target: Flynn's Pile of Boners



Author: Stephanie Fisher (non-Christian)

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Title: AN EXHIBITION OF INCOMPETENCE: TRICKERY DICKERY BAYES
Location: http://rjosephhoffmann.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/the-jesus-process-stephanie-louise-fisher/
Type: Blog
Merit: Lame
Target: Proving History



Author: Mike Flynn

Updates: (custom google search, http://tofspot.blogspot.com/search?q=richard+carrier, RSS, RSS)

Title: Bride of the Age of Unreason: The Archimedes Palimpsest
Location: http://m-francis.livejournal.com/131531.html
Type: Blog
Merit: Important
Target: Flynn's Pile of Boners

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Title: The Archimedes Palimpsest
Location: http://tofspot.blogspot.com/2010/01/archimedes-palimpsest.html
Type: Blog
Merit: Important
Target: Flynn's Pile of Boners

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Title: Is That Your Agenda Showing, or Are You Just Happy to See Me? The Age of Unreason, Redux
Location: http://tofspot.blogspot.com/2010/01/is-that-your-agenda-showing-or-are-you.html
Type: Blog
Merit: Important
Target: Flynn's Pile of Boners

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Author: David Friedman ("Preterist Archive")

Updates: custom google search

Title: Does 1 Corinthians 15 Teach a Physical or a Spiritual Resurrection?
Location: http://www.preteristarchive.com/BibleStudies/Bible_NT/Corinthians_First/Articles/2000_friedman_1-cor_15.html, http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/corinthians.html and http://www.nocreyentes.org/library/modern/features/2000/friedman1.html
Type: Web archive
Merit: Important
Target: Review of "In Defense of Miracles"




Author: Alonzo Fyfe ("Atheist Ethicist")

Updates: (http://atheistethicist.blogspot.com/search?q=richard+carrier, RSS)

Title: Happiness vs. Desire Fulfillment
Location: http://atheistethicist.blogspot.com/2006/09/happiness-vs-desire-fulfillment.html
Type: Blog
Merit: So-so
Target: Sense and Goodness Without God, pg. 315

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  • Argument: Fyfe: "Humans act so as to make or keep true the propositions that are the objects of their desires, and human desires are (or can be) as varied as human beliefs. Insofar as a person has a desire to be happy (a desire “that I am happy”) then he will act so as to make or keep the proposition “I am happy” true. But this is one desire among many, and agents will often sacrifice happiness if it is necessary to fulfill some other desire."
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  • Response: This misunderstands Carrier's definition of happiness since one would argue the agent in the proposed situation "wouldn't be happy" if they did not accommodate said extraneous desire that has apparently been arbitrarily left out of the scope of what Carrier would call "happiness." The most plausible understanding of Carrier's goal theory in terms of desirism is that the proposition of "happiness" would be a desired state where there is a place for every good desire and every such "team player" desire would be in its place when not facing extreme circumstances. Fyfe's criticism is a bit like calling attention to some other blue monkey when the referent in question is already ALL blue monkeys. The desire for genuine happiness is virtually identical to the desire to attain a balanced and flourishing economy of "team player" desires that desirism advocates. The disagreement is implausibly generated, when Fyfe could just as easily be finding common ground and promoting a refinement of concepts, rather than such an incoherent and implausible negation.

Title: Richard Carrier's Satisfaction Theory of Value
Location: http://atheistethicist.blogspot.com/2009/04/richard-carriers-satisfaction-theory-of.html
Type: Blog
Merit: So-so
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  • Response: (see Carrier's comments) The choice is between two versions of torture. You can pick a type of torture for yourself or direct torture for your child. If we aim for the most happiness between both parties in this scenario, it seems to me that the emotional distress is easier to cope with than direct physical torture that can't be gotten away from. Over time, perhaps you can hope to become a little delusional and sell yourself yet another lie to cancel out the previous lie and possibly attain some happiness in the extreme long term. Someone that is being directly tortured doesn't even have that chance. There is no difference between the theories here, since realizing two states of affairs that are closest to "happiness" and fulfilling the most desires is basically the same thing.

Title: Carrier, Happiness, and Types of Persons
Location: http://atheistethicist.blogspot.com/2009/04/carrier-happiness-and-types-of-persons.html
Type: Blog
Merit: So-so
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Title: Internal State Theories
Location: http://atheistethicist.blogspot.com/2009/04/internal-state-theories.html
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Merit: So-so
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Title: Parsimony and Internalist Theories of Value
Location: http://atheistethicist.blogspot.com/2009/04/parsimony-and-internalist-theories-of.html
Type: Blog
Merit: So-so
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Title: Beliefs, Desires, and Happiness: Responding to Carrier
Location: http://atheistethicist.blogspot.com/2009/09/beliefs-desires-and-happiness.html
Type: Blog
Merit: So-so
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Title: A Particular Kind of Person: A Response to Carrier 2
Location: http://atheistethicist.blogspot.com/2009/09/particular-kind-of-person-response-to.html
Type: Blog
Merit: So-so
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Title: Reasoning with Evil
Location: http://atheistethicist.blogspot.com/2009/10/reasoning-with-evil.html
Type: Blog
Merit: So-so
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